Yeah VFFs are funky...but sometimes not in the good way

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    I've done the diluted vinegar trick and it was a short term solution. The users who mentioned material staying in the shoe was dead accurate. That needs to be scrubbed out. A finger will work, an old tooth brush will work. Get that out. Get in the toes, too.

    My favorite solution as of right now is simplegreen pro3 with fungicide. I got it at home depot. It's heavy duty stuff so be sure to dilute per the directions. Shoes smell good, odor stays gone MUCH longer. I soak for only about an hour or so and then sun dry/air dry.


    Sounds good - hopefully it isn't harsh on skin, though. That's what I'd be worried about.

    So i decided not to go with the Simple green... it seemed to be to "Industrial" for my VFF's so I deciede to go with a similar product that offers Fungicide, deodorizer, and other things... Odoban I have used this product before and it works amazingly.... Im surprised that it has slipped my mind. It also works well with pet odors  and supposedly Kills HIV... Very good product, Not to harsh, and Smells Awesome
  • Half a cup of vinegar to the gallon of hot water is what I soak my KSOs in once per week.  An hour in that and then a normal hand wash is all that they need to stay unfunky.

    I did use  bleach for a bit in the beginning.  A capful per gallon.  But I noticed that the fabric was getting stiffer, so I stopped soon after starting that regiment.
  • Has anyone used What Odor?  I just purchased some online and will let people know how it works.  In the meantime, I think I'll try the vinegar trick.
  • I'm slowly noticing the development of stank. I'm delaying doing anything to them until there is a distinct scent that I believe others will notice in public. Hopefully we can find a simple solution like a spray or just something to do with them overnight to rid ourselves of the smell. I love these things but I'd really prefer not to have to do anything to them that I don't have to do to normal shoes.
  • I noticed this "stank" as you call it, after my first use.  I guess some of us are blessed with non smelly feet, while others like me are not.  Anyways, I picked up "Odor Eaters" at a local drug store.  It's a foot powder that supposedly absorbs odor on contact.  You just put it on your feet and inside the shoe before use.  I'll post back when I've tried it with the VFFs. 
  • Maybe it's just because the late great Billy Mays so masterfully pitched it, but What Odor seems like just what we're looking for. A simple spray bottle that we can apply as needed seems absolutely optimal, and the Pitchmen episode sure seem to back up th commercials well.

    Any word yet Scott?
  • Yeah my KSOs are getting alittle funky. The insides are a greyish yellow (YUCK!) Going to go at them with a toothbrush oxyclean and mirazyme. Will try next clorox greenworks.

    I really think it was the body glide I've been putting on my feet to prevent blisters than help cause the stank. My feet didn't stink before the body glide and I wore them for a few weeks, but a couple of weeks of body glide and hello funk. My husband doesn't use body glide and his KSOs don't stink like mine.

    Body glide=no blisters and stank!
  • After about a week of normal wear my KSO's started to get really funky. So I threw them in the laundry with my jeans. Worked great... for one day. Now they're back to funky. I picked up a bottle of Mirazyme from a local dive shop. I'll test it out and post my results in a few days. I don't expect miracles but a week or two would be nice.
  • Until now i managed to stay at least human for quiet a while by hand washing them with mild soap..

    I'll try some of your suggestions next time i have to clean them..

    Has anybody an idea how the Trek's work or will work out, regard smelliness?

    My intention is to use the Trek as everyday footwear i wouldn't be to pleased to realize that i have to wash it anytime i wore them...

    Regards
  • I'm about a month into wearing my Black KSO's. I've been wearing them upwards of 12 hours a day, never taking a break. I've worn them to class, in the rain, and when I've gone running. They slowly began to stink. I couldn't come up with a low maintenance solution so I waited for one to come up on here.

    While waiting to come up with something, my feet began to reek due to constant exposure. So every day I spent a good 3 minutes scrubbing my feet. Sitting at my computer last night, I realized that my shoes were on my desk and my feet were on the floor. But the strange thing was, I didn't really smell them. I sniffed them, and yeah, the scent was there, but it was much weaker. It had gone from having a 4 foot scent radius to have less than a 1 foot stink radius.

    So maybe, the solution isn't washing our shoes, it's washing our feet. It's worked for me thus far (knock on wood), but I'll keep you posted.
  • My KSOs were getting mighty ripe. I don't use socks and using body glide on my feet made them extra stinky. My husband doesn't use body glide and his KSOs don't smell very bad at all. So either I use body glide and ave stinky feet or have not stinky feet with blisters. ???

    First, I washed my KSOs last night by hand. I find that the washer doesn't scrub the yellow footbed enough and that's where the smell comes from. I used oxyclean, vinegar, and lemon 409 cleaner. Soaked KSos in hot water w/ oxyclean and vinegar. Scrubbed inside footbeds with toothbrush. They were turning gray. Yuck! Now they're almost (still kind of dark) yellow. I used 409 and a toothbrush on the rubber bottoms to get them grey again and not black. It worked pretty well and might add it to the soak. I then rinsed and used half a bottle of mirazyme and soaked again. I'm air drying, but since it's so humid here because of the rain, I think I'm going to use a hair dryer set on low heat to finish drying them.

    Actually, I think the slow dry time contributes to stinkiness. From now on, I'm going to use the hair dryer on low heat because it works fine and gets them dry in 15 minutes.

    I agree that a lot of stink comes from our dirty feet. I have to double wash my feet to get the stink off of them after wearing my stinky KSOs.

    So dry my ksos smell like chemical lemons and a slitght whiff of stinky feet. I will have to test them out a few times to see if the smell has gone. I will update you, but it seems like mirazyme may be a bust. Good thing I kept the receipt because the other new bottle is going back to REI.

    I think I'm going to try Clorox green works next. The 409 did a good job on my rubber bottoms and I will be using themin the future. As to veingar and oxyclean, I might tinker with other celaning stuff. I do know that the most important thing is to erally scrub and clean that yellow foot bed. It is slightly spongey so it absorbs all the sweat and nasty, smelly bacteria love to hide in there.
  • I still wash mine by hand with Green Works after every couple of wearings. I haven't worn socks all summer the KSO's stay fresh. I was putting them on the line soaking wet but they seemed to take too long to dry. Mostly because I wash them after work and I only have an hour or so before the sun goes down. Yesterday I followed my routine but after letting them drip for an hour I put them in the washer and let them go through only the final spin. Then I hung them in my basement and they were bone dry this morning. It works for me and is about the quickest and easiest solution I have been able to come up with.
  • Hi, I'm new to this board, but my favorite shoe/foot odor combat tool is tea tree oil. My partner has some WAY funky-smelling feet, so I purchased a bottle of the stuff and had her wipe it on her feet before putting shoes on every day. No more funk. I use it now too, especially with my VFF's and any other shoes I wear without socks (chucks & my fancy Terra Planas). Right now I'm side-tracked because of a surgery, but usually I run a few miles a day in them, and no stink!

    When they get gunky inside, I just take them into the shower and wash them out with Dr. Bronner's (again, tea tree oil in the soap.) It's works really well. Give it a try. (The only down-side is that tea tree oil has a strong, medicinal smell. Lush makes a foot lotion for odor purposes that contains it, and though I've not tried it, I'm guessing the smell isn't as strong.)
  • Hmm....tea tree oil, we've got some of that at home, so I will definitely have to give it a try.  Thanks for the suggestion!  And BTW rutibegga, there is a great soap company (www.copasoaps.com) in Philly that makes a tea tree oil soap.  I just got some in my latest order, but haven't tried it yet.  I highly recommend C.O.P.A., great products and service!

  • I'm wondering how much I'll be affected by The Funk. My feet haven't had any stink for many years now, but especially over the last few years I've been almost exclusively wearing SmartWool socks. No stink harbored in the merino wool, very nice.

    Also, I use the Crystal Deodorant Stone for the armpits, does well to nix the growth of stinky bacteria (without the wacky chemicals and aluminum salts). I've heard some folks use it on their feet, that might be another option to try.
  • This stuff is pretty much the awesome.  I use it everyday before I put them on and every night after I take them off.  It's basically an upside down aerosol can that you insert into the shoe and press down on and it will spray excellence far into your VFF's nether reaches.  They sell it at Target and Walgreens.

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    (i don't work for kiwi)
  • Does that spray just mask the odor? What about nasty build up that turns the insides grey. I find it's the build up that stinks the worst since it soaks into the footbed.
  • I don't want to start a religious war, but...

    How many of you folks who are having odour issues are meat-eaters? I've long believed that vegetarians smell much better than people who eat dead flesh. Don't have any scientific studies to back this up, just personal and anecdotal experience.

    I mean it about not wanting to start a war. I'm simply wondering aloud.

    Alan (a vegetarian who has no foot odour issues, either with VFFs or without)
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    Does that spray just mask the odor? What about nasty build up that turns the insides grey. I find it's the build up that stinks the worst since it soaks into the footbed.


    It doesn't seem to mask the odor, it actually seems to suppress odor.  I don't use the spray exclusively, I also machine wash them every 5-7 days, and sometimes wear Injinji socks too.  (Also I wash my feet ;) ).

    I haven't ever gotten any buildup in my VFF's...  the aerosol spray wouldn't work on that, though it might help the odor.  Maybe try scrubbing it with a toothbrush?
  • I eat meat like it's going out of style and I had only a minor problem that has come to a complete and total stop after upping the amount of attention I spend on washing my feet. Actually, my vegetarian girlfriend has more problems with the scent in her flats than I have with my Vibram's at this point.
  • I'm a strong proponent of the consumption of natural saturated fats, mostly from animals, and my VFFs don't smell at all.
    I've stuck my nose in them quite a bit lately, expecting them to exhibit this "funk" that some are experiencing, so far there's nothing.
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    I don't want to start a religious war, but...

    How many of you folks who are having odour issues are meat-eaters? I've long believed that vegetarians smell much better than people who eat dead flesh. Don't have any scientific studies to back this up, just personal and anecdotal experience.

    I mean it about not wanting to start a war. I'm simply wondering aloud.

    Alan (a vegetarian who has no foot odour issues, either with VFFs or without)


    I often joke that I'm a carnivore and I've yet to have stinky Vibrams.  I usually only wash mine b/c they are dirty on the outside.

    There *could* be some dietary connection to stinky feet, but I'd guess that it's not meat or veggies.
  • So another theory of mine goes down the tubes. That's OK, because it happens a lot to my theories...  ;)

    Alan
  • Body odor as a consequence of diet is a combination among the menu selection (meat vs veggies vs grains) and the source (organic vs factory farmed vs grass fed meat) and the way it was prepared (raw vs deep fried vs baked).

    That, and some people just smell bad.  Like hippies.  :)
  • I don't think I could ever avoid my feet/shoes eventually getting funky. Even my flip-flops eventually start to get ripe. I've been every kind of "-ivore" at some point in my life and I've never noticed a difference because of that. I'm guessing it's genetic. My dad and I are the same and my mom and brother are the opposite of us.
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