Got my Stems...

...HOLY EFFING ASSCRACKERS!

They arrived today...They are amazing!  First I have to give a huge THANK YOU to Stefanie for being the "guinea pig" in regards to the sizing - if it weren't for you I would have had to send the "pre-ordered" 38s back for the 39s I ended up getting on the Official order.

These are amazingly comfy shoes - on par with the Vivobarefoots [Neos] I have, for much less. I ended up with the Survival Origins Womens (the brown ones).

I can't wait to wear them for a full day of work!!

They do run true to size - my toes just barely brush the end of the nice, wide toe box.  They are lightweight, stylish, and just plain sa-weet!
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  • LOL, you are hilarious... I knew you'd love them!  ;D


    I really want some correct-toes to wear with them... but $60 for those dang things? IDK.. that's almost another pair of shoes, lol
  • Ha, it sounds like you had exactly the same reaction as I did!  They are really the most comfortable shoes I have ever put on my feet!  Is the Survival Origins actually brown?  It really looks black to me!

    As far as sizing goes, I wear a W40 Jaya LR, W40 Sprint (though I'm actually between a 39 and 40), and a W39 Trek, and the Stem W40 fits perfectly.  My toes just barely touch the end, which might be disconcerting if you're not used to VFFs, but feels great to me.  I wore them to work today and was on my feet for 6 hours, and didn't notice them at all, which was awesome!  They did get a little warm, but despite the sweat my feet felt dryer than in my Merrells or VFFs.

    Also, the quality seems pretty good, and they are so much more flexible and comfy than my Merrell Pace Gloves, which were going back to REI regardless of whether the Stems worked out because they're falling apart.  Lets keep our fingers crossed that these are more durable, because otherwise they're perfect! :)
  • Darn you pooch, you make me want more shoes.  >:(

    ;)
  • Mine came in Saturday. Thats all I have worn since the weekend. I LOVE them. I got the primal origins. As far as sizing. I wear 43 (Men) in the KSO and 44 in everything else. So I got the 44's. When I first put on the right shoe I though it felt a tad snug. But maybe they actually "grew" like the website says. Anyway, now the fit is perfect. 'm Sooooo gld that I got them.
  • What's a correct-toes?
  • on 1316481244:

    LOL, you are hilarious... I knew you'd love them!  ;D


    I really want some correct-toes to wear with them... but $60 for those dang things? IDK.. that's almost another pair of shoes, lol


    You wear VFFs and other minimalist shoes - I can't see why you would need Correct Toes? Unless your toes are that bad that they need a push in the right direction? To me, they seem to be most beneficial to people who have had their feet stuffed into "pizza-toe" shoes (as I call them... shoes that end in points and have a lot of room at the end where the toes can't begin to fit into) for a very long time, or people with bunions, etc.

    barefeet, these are Correct Toes: http://nwfootankle.com/home/toes
  • on 1316522759:
    You wear VFFs and other minimalist shoes - I can't see why you would need Correct Toes? Unless your toes are that bad that they need a push in the right direction? To me, they seem to be most beneficial to people who have had their feet stuffed into "pizza-toe" shoes (as I call them... shoes that end in points and have a lot of room at the end where the toes can't begin to fit into) for a very long time, or people with bunions, etc.

    barefeet, these are Correct Toes: http://nwfootankle.com/home/toes


    I would think she would want correct toes for the same reason I do.  I am just getting into teh barefoot/minimalist lifestyle and my toes are marred by my previous (and still current) footwear... The difference is now I notice it constantly and I am consciously trying to stretch my toes.  The correct toes could help make that adjustment and change quicker by adding the additional structure to keep the toes spread.
  • on 1316522759:

    on 1316481244:

    LOL, you are hilarious... I knew you'd love them!  ;D


    I really want some correct-toes to wear with them... but $60 for those dang things? IDK.. that's almost another pair of shoes, lol


    You wear VFFs and other minimalist shoes - I can't see why you would need Correct Toes? Unless your toes are that bad that they need a push in the right direction? To me, they seem to be most beneficial to people who have had their feet stuffed into "pizza-toe" shoes (as I call them... shoes that end in points and have a lot of room at the end where the toes can't begin to fit into) for a very long time, or people with bunions, etc.

    barefeet, these are Correct Toes: http://nwfootankle.com/home/toes



    Because I tend to go overboard... I am an all-or-nothing type of person! haha.. I probably won't get any correct toes now that you have said that though, thanks for saving me  8)

    I agree with Justin, though.  I'd just like to try them out.. My toes are definitely getting stronger though.  I could always spread them out what I thought was freakishly a lot.. and now I can even more!
  • Got mine!!

    First impressions:

    1. They look like something my grandma would wear (But I don't care about that. I wear VFFs in public, after all).

    2. When I lift my foot off the ground, the foot/shoe bends just so that the area at the top of the laces - that small tab with pink stitches - pokes down on the top of my foot where my toes meet my foot. It feels quite abrasive to the skin on my foot, but less so to my fingers when I feel underneath that tab. Stefanie, have you noticed that problem? I'm afraid it'll cause chafing/blisters if worn longer. They already hurt and I've had them on for all of two minutes.
  • Hey all,

    It's Andrew Rademacher, CEO of Stem Footwear

    Thank you for all the positive comments.  I will try to check in with this forum and answer questions and gather two things: 1) positive encouragement and 2) constructive criticism.  Our shoe is wonderful and for many people "it's the most comfortable shoe ever" but nothing is ever perfect (and I'm a bit of a perfectionist) so we look at 3rd party forums like this to gather data for future seasons of shoes.

    Most of our questions have been about sizing.  And that is expected, because in the shoe industry there is absolutely no standard.  We've found the best way to figure out your size may be to go by what US size you most typically wear in athletic shoes.  And remember you need to size up 1/2 size in Stem Footwear because they tend to run small.  If you are typically a womens 8.5 you most definitely need the 40(US 9-9.5) and if you most typically wear a womens 8 you are a on the border, but you can probably get away with the 39(US 8-8.5).  For the Mens sizes, if you are typically a 10.5 you need the 44(11-11.5) and if you typically wear a 10 you will be fine in the 43(10-10.5).

    Myra, if you feel little rubbing on the top of the toes, I suggest Machine Wash on gentle cycle and then let air-dry (dries in about 1-2 hours).  And then wear them around, and your problem should be fixed.  This material you are feeling is necessary to hold the shoe together, and it does soften in the wash and with wear.

    Cheer, Andrew
  • Sounds cool...good luck Andrew
  • Hey pooch.. can you post a couple pics? I'd like to see the brown ones on feet!
  • posted by mistake.
  • I already made a comment on a different thread about this, but wanted to touch base here too since Andrew himself is watching this thread.  I absolutely love these shoes.  They are the most comfortable things I have had on my feet that did not have individual toes.  I was very impressed with the companies willingness to update their sizing chart based on their customers recommendations.  From what I have seen the last time I checked it, it appears to be spot on now.  I have had nothing but positive experiences with my phone and e-mail correspondences with the company.  Andrew, if you are listening, we need a winter appropriate model.  I am fearful that these shoes will be shelved soon once the cold Minnesota winter arrives.  If you made a pair that did not have the mesh uppers, then I believe they could be worn in cold and snowy environments.  The non-mesh portion of the upper seems as though it would be plenty warm if the entire shoe were made of that material.  I am not sure about water proofing, and if this material can withstand some sort of waterproofing agent then they would indeed be perfect.  For snow and ice conditions you might want to add a little more traction to the sole, but it may not be necessary.  I am going to wear these everyday for as long as I can and will be sad when I have to place them in the closet for the winter.  Andrew, if you decide to embark on a winter friendly variation of your awesome footwear, I'd love to wear test a pair.
  • Got mine yesterday, sadly they were too long. Returned them today for a size down. For the amount of time I had them on they were quite comfortable, and love the width of the toe box!
  • on 1316706073:

    Got mine yesterday, sadly they were too long. Returned them today for a size down. For the amount of time I had them on they were quite comfortable, and love the width of the toe box!


    What size did you order and how did it compare to your VFF size?  Did you upsize based on the previous posts and then look at the updated sizing chart?  Just trying to figure out how you got too long of a pair. 
  • Normally I wear a 40-41 (VFF and others) and based on their sizing disclaimer "STEM footwear runs 1/2 size small" I order 42
  • Okay, here are a few pics of the Survival Origins (the brown ones). I opted for these because I have no nice brown shoes, but I wanted to also keep them neutral for work.

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    Plus, a video showing their flexibility.  I am curling and flexing my toes inside the shoe:
    https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/XRs1sOtN2KkKZpWS56wSPA?feat=directlink
  • on 1316707905:

    Normally I wear a 40-41 (VFF and others) and based on their sizing disclaimer "STEM footwear runs 1/2 size small" I order 42


    Odd.  I wear a 40 KSO, 41 Classic and I tried the 41 in Stems and my big toe was protruding out the front of the shoe.  They were definitely too short.  I had to go with the 42.  My sizing seems spot on with what others had experienced.  Now it seems that Stem has yet again redone their sizing chart and completely removed the useful chart that compared their fit to KSOs.  Not sure why they did that.
  • on 1316710520:

    on 1316707905:

    Normally I wear a 40-41 (VFF and others) and based on their sizing disclaimer "STEM footwear runs 1/2 size small" I order 42


    Odd.  I wear a 40 KSO, 41 Classic and I tried the 41 in Stems and my big toe was protruding out the front of the shoe.  They were definitely too short.  I had to go with the 42.  My sizing seems spot on with what others had experienced.  Now it seems that Stem has yet again redone their sizing chart and completely removed the useful chart that compared their fit to KSOs.  Not sure why they did that.


    My guess would be because the KSO's are notoriously inconsistent.
  • on 1316712666:

    on 1316710520:

    on 1316707905:

    Normally I wear a 40-41 (VFF and others) and based on their sizing disclaimer "STEM footwear runs 1/2 size small" I order 42


    Odd.  I wear a 40 KSO, 41 Classic and I tried the 41 in Stems and my big toe was protruding out the front of the shoe.  They were definitely too short.  I had to go with the 42.  My sizing seems spot on with what others had experienced.  Now it seems that Stem has yet again redone their sizing chart and completely removed the useful chart that compared their fit to KSOs.  Not sure why they did that.


    My guess would be because the KSO's are notoriously inconsistent.


    According to Vibram's sizing chart, I should be in M40 in KSO with a foot measurement of 10 1/4.  They are spot on regarding the KSOs.  Other later models have not been so accurate.  My KSOs are not the notorious black ones that run small, but rather the brown/brown variant.

    I printed out Stem's original sizing chart, which seemed to be off by one size, but I never re-printed it once they fixed it and now it seems they have removed it completely.  I am curious as to why they did so, unless they were getting flack about it for some reason.
  • See, they are true to size in one color, but not in another.  that is why I think they make a bad comparison.
  • on 1316709034:

    Plus, a video showing their flexibility.  I am curling and flexing my toes inside the shoe:
    https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/XRs1sOtN2KkKZpWS56wSPA?feat=directlink


    mannnn now I'm wanting a pair of these in addition to VFF's.  Sucks being po'  :P

    Video link says not found BTW
  • Has anyone posted any pictures showing the flexibility of the shoes?  If not can someone?
  • on 1316720766:

    Has anyone posted any pictures showing the flexibility of the shoes?   If not can someone?


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