Parkour

edited December 1969 in Barefoot(ish) Activities
I've not had a chance to freerun with these shoes yet, only having them for
2 days but I have done some barefoot sessions with my group, so even
less padding! You are certainly much more careful. It makes you think
about how you should take off and land when jumping and you get feedback
very quickly when something is not right! What I find so fun about running
barefeet is how quiet it is, the less sound, the more efficient i find my
movement is.

Ultimately you shouldn't rely on padding in shoes to protect you from dodgy
landing, it should be all about technique. If you don't have the right techinque
and strength to land from a height then you shouldn't do it. So going barefoot
really forces you concentrate and improve your technique for the better. I'm
sure thats what lots of converted runners could associate with.

I guess the best advice on how to go about it is to build up your strenth in
your legs, feet, back and joints and start with small heights. Landing on the
balls of your feet is a must and you should have the strength in your ankles
not to let your heels hit the ground. The general rule me and other traceurs
(parkour practitioners) use is; if you can't jump onto something, no hands,
then don't jump off it. And you have to remember that parkour is not all
about jumping off buildings anyway.

I can imagine more advanced traceurs may appreciate having some some
padding when they do large distances and heights, but they should know what
they're doing and what shoes to use. I'm sure there's lots more for me to
learn about using VFF in parkour so I'll keep posting.

Are there any more traceurs on this forum?

I suggest Parkour related things could be moved to a thread in Barefoot Activities.
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  • I had started down the road of parkour, but got sidetracked.  We have a couple of wicked Traceurs here in North Texas.  The Tapp brothers.  Not sure if you have heard of them?
  • (Moved to BF activities!)

    Thanks for the advice.  One of the first things I learned using VFFs was the importance of improved landing.  Just falling from a pull-up bar (say 8 ft up) incorrectly was enough foot smarting to make me think more about landing (and practice).  I've also found it fun to bound down stairwells in my VFFs -- and true to your comment, I typically restrict the falling distance to that which I can also jump up (say four stairs or so).
  • I joined a Parkour Generations jam in London while I was away. People were
    certainly interested in what I had on my feet. I noticed my balance on rail
    was slightly improved, I think my KSOs wrap round the rails and give more
    stability. On the day I felt like I got a splinter under my right big toe, but it
    turned out to be a deep blister under the thick part of skin, it seems a
    common occurrence for new five footers. It was so deep that it's still there
    after 3 weeks! Though its not a problem now.

    I notice that while I'm careful in these shoes because there's no padding, I
    also feel I had to take care of the soles of my VTTs because I was worried
    how much they would wear out. The wear is a big question for me, and other
    friends who asked me, how long will these expensive shoes last...
  • on 1250102174:

    I joined a Parkour Generations jam in London while I was away. People were
    certainly interested in what I had on my feet. I noticed my balance on rail
    was slightly improved, I think my KSOs wrap round the rails and give more
    stability. On the day I felt like I got a splinter under my right big toe, but it
    turned out to be a deep blister under the thick part of skin, it seems a
    common occurrence for new five footers. It was so deep that it's still there
    after 3 weeks! Though its not a problem now.

    I notice that while I'm careful in these shoes because there's no padding, I
    also feel I had to take care of the soles of my VTTs because I was worried
    how much they would wear out. The wear is a big question for me, and other
    friends who asked me, how long will these expensive shoes last...


    Interesting re: the deep blister.  I haven't had the experience ... yet! 

    As for wear, I think it all depends on how much you drag your feet or do a lot of hard stopping where you are relying on the sole friction to stop you.  I think with practice and adaptation to barefoot-esque walking, you don't drag your feet as much ... that's my experience with walking anyway.
  • Fellow tracer here! I just got my new KSOs in the mail today. So I hopefully will be able to get a good session in later this week. Im going to the gym tonight to see how they handle the break-in.
  • I have absolutely no idea what you people are talking about, LOL
  • Kev

    never mind google. Type Parkour into youtube and pictures will indeed speak a thousand words.


    Jason
  • That (parkour) is some crazy cool stuff. It's amazing what the human body can do.
  • Yep videos will show you very nicely, the Wikipedia entry is not bad either. A respected source of information is
    http://www.parkourgenerations.com/articles.php
    they are a London group with close ties with the founders of the discipline.
  • Here are some local guys from Texas doing parkour, with added acrobatic moves.

  • I wish people did it in my area. I'd love to get into it, but have no idea where to start.
  • It's like gymnists on crack. So cool. I wish I could do that except gravity and I aren't on speaking terms right now.
  • Parkour is not really gymnastics.  It is about efficiently flowing through an environment, around obstacles.  The flips and such are supplementary.
  • I agree, there is a lot of misconception about Parkour in the mainstream. Its not all about
    showing off, its about improving yourself physically and mentally and to gain useful skills.
    Sure, doing acrobatics is fun and there's nothing bad about it provided you trained for it,
    but its not a competition to see who can do the most impressive trick. I like the non
    competitive side of things, its not about getting the most points, what matters is that you
    have something to use for when you are in trouble or need to help others. This is why a
    lot of people are unhappy about the World Freerunning Championships for example, it
    goes against the ethos of Parkour.

    Hopefully going minimal with the footwear will come in handy for when I'm caught without
    any shoes!
  • I thought I'd say a bit more about my experiences so far practicing Parkour with my KSOs.

    It makes me think back to when I was learning to leap over a wall using my hands
    (kong/catpass), I always scraped my skin off the end of my pinkie. I thought I'd try wearing
    gloves to stop that, but I ended up with a hole in my gloves! But as I became more
    practiced, I stopped scraping my little finger off. An improved technique was the answer.

    So when started using KSOs, I could really feel how my feet slid against the walls. My
    previous Parkour shoes were really old and I managed to scrape all the sole off till there was
    literally nothing left! Is it really a good thing to allow your feet to slide? Perhaps it is better to
    stop your feet scraping across surfaces and use better technique to contact on to surfaces,
    just like I used my hands to get over a wall. I now am much more delicate with my feet and
    always think after a sloppy landing "ah, that could have been done much better" where I
    wouldn't have before. It is expensive rubber to burn!

    My balance is much easier now, the KSOs allow my feet to conform to walls and rails as I
    walk on top of them. And they're so silent which is a good indication of efficiency.  ;D
  • Well I'm using KSO's for Parkour/FreeRunning and I feel like they are very good with natural things like trees, rocks, ect.
    But Im also new to all of this or at least being serious about it.
    I feel like a pair of sneakers is ok for urban things. Honestly Wall running (like across a wall/multiple steps) with VFF's feels like I might injure my foot.
    I think Im going to love the Treks, They look like they protect your foot a little more and the extra grip on the bottom should be just right.


  • best parkour i've ever seen.
  • Now that is impressive.
  • I guess it helps if you're a professional gymnast, martial artist, and stuntman.  ;)
  • on 1255065065:

    I guess it helps if you're a professional gymnast, martial artist, and stuntman.  ;)


    Well that too :D
  • I think I like the form of parkour where the person moves through an environment despite the obstacles in their path - like that opening scene in that one James Bond movie.  It's watching a finely tuned animal at home in its environment. 

    The other stuff is impressive, but it seems less useful, and more about gymnastic tricks than what I'd thought parkour was about. 

    (Not that there's anything wrong with doing something just for fun, of course.  ;)  )
  • There's a movie (French, I think) that came out ~4-5 years ago that had lots of parkour. The main characters practiced parkour, and ended up having to become cat burglars to raise money to provide medical care for a sick kid in the neighborhood, or something like that. I watched most of it, but don't know French, and it didn't have subtitles.

    *a few minutes go by*

    Hooray for da intarwebs...

    The movie is Yamakasi
  • on 1255106404:

    I think I like the form of parkour where the person moves through an environment despite the obstacles in their path - like that opening scene in that one James Bond movie.  It's watching a finely tuned animal at home in its environment. 


    I'd agree on you there, though a quick entry into your car would be a useful if you wanted to get away fast  :D

    District 13 is another movie with PK if I remember correctly
  • I love the dog chase scene ;D
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